Monday, January 5, 2015

quantum mechanics - Prove [A,Bn]=nBn1[A,B]


I am trying to show that [A,Bn]=nBn1[A,B] where A and B are two Hermitian operators that commute with their commutator. However, I am running into a little problem and would like a hint of how to proceed.


If A and B commute then [A,B]=ABA1B1=e where e is the identity element of the group.


AB=BA



n=1;[A,B1]=(1)B0[A,B]=e

This statement is certainly true. however moving on to n=2 I find...


[A,B2]=AB2A1B2=ABBA1B1B1=BBAA1B1B1


Where in the last step I have used the fact that A and B commute to rearange the terms. However, it is plain to see that this last term simply reduces to the identity as well and for the n = 2 case we have:


[A,B2]=e2B[A,B]=2Be=2B


Clearly I have assumed something I shouldn't have. The fact that there is a multiplicative factor of n implies I should be adding things, but I thought if I kept it as general as possible, the answer should just fall out naturally. I don't want an answer please, only guidance.



Answer



It seems that the question (v1) is caused by the fact that there are two different notions of the commutator:




  1. One for group theory: [A,B] := ABA1B1

    (or sometimes [A,B]:=A1B1AB, depending on convention), which is relatively seldom used in physics.





  2. One for rings/associative algebras: [A,B]:=ABBA,

    which is the definition usually used in physics. (This latter definition (2) generalizes to a supercommutator in superalgebras.)




The identity


[A,Bn] = nBn1[A,B]


holds in the latter sense (2), if [[A,B],B]=0. (It is not necessary to demand [A,[A,B]]=0.) More generally, for a sufficiently well-behaved function f, we have


[A,f(B)] = f(B)[A,B],


if [[A,B],B]=0.



The group commutator (1) is dimensionless, which (among other things) makes the identity (*) unnatural to demand for group commutators.


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