Thursday, June 25, 2015

conservation laws - What does a symmetry that changes the Lagrangian by a total derivative do to the Hamiltonian H?


A tiny symmetry transformation may change the Lagrangian L by a total time derivative of some function f. This is a basic fact used in the proof of Noether's theorem.


How can we see the effect of this total derivative term in the Hamiltonian framework? Is there a good example to work out? I can't think of one off the top of my head. It just seems strange to me that all this fuss about total derivatives seem to disappear in the Hamiltonian framework.



Answer



I suppose I figured out the "answer" to my very vague question, although the other answers here are also helpful. The "Hamiltonian Lagrangian" is


L=pi˙qiH.

Say we have a conserved charge Q, that is {Q,H}=0.
If we make the tiny symmetry variation δqi=Qpiδpi=Qqi
then δL=Qqi˙qipiddt(Qpi)+{H,Q}=Qpi˙qi˙piQpi+ddt(piQpi)=ddt(piQpiQ)



So we can see that L necessarily changes by a total derivative. When the quantity piQpiQ=0, the total derivative is 0. This happens when the conserved quantity is of the form Q=pifi(q).

Note that in the above case, δqi=fi(q)
That is, symmetry transformations which do not "mix up" the p's with the q's have no total derivative term in δL.


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