Thursday, June 14, 2018

hamiltonian formalism - Elimination of velocities from momenta equations for singular Lagrangian


this doubt is related to Generalized Hamiltonian Dynamics paper by Dirac.


Consider the set of n equations : pi = L/vi,



(where vi is qi(dot) = dqi/dt, or time derivative of qi)(L is the lagrangian, q represent degrees of freedom in configuration space)


Now Dirac says : "If the n quantities L/vi on the right-hand side of the given equations are NOT independent functions of the velocities, we can eliminate the v's from (the above-given) set of equations and obtain one or more equations: ϕj(q,p)=0, (j=1,2,...,m if there are m such constraints)"


Could anyone please explain how this comes about? I can't understand how the v's can be necessarily eliminated, and if the p's are not all independent, then we can simply obtain relations like iaipi=0 (where a's are non-zero coefficients), not involving q's at all.


Thanks (and apologies in case I'm missing something obvious).



Answer



Maybe an example:


A particle moving in 2 dimensions has a Lagrangian


L=˙x2+˙y22


So px=L˙x=˙x

py=L˙y=˙y


Suppose it's constrained to move on a circle x2+y2=R2



Now there is a constraint between the p's which you can get from differentiating the constraining circle, namely x˙x+y˙y=0

This is a constraint, but not of the type you are talking about, since the Lagrangian is still regular.


To obtain a Lagrangian which is singular rather than regular, we require c onstraints which result in the vanishing of the Hessian matrix 2L˙qi˙qj. This means that the Legendre transform (sometimes called the Floer map) from the tangent bundle to the cotangent bundle (phase space) FL:TQTQ

given by (qi,˙qi)(qi,pi=L˙qi)


is not invertible. It's image is restricted by a bunch of constraint functions. (Caveat, assuming we're restricted to a neighbourhood where rank of Hessian is constant).


For example, for the following Lagrangian L=12(˙x2+˙y2)+˙x˙y+4x˙y+2x2+4xy


the Hessian determinant is easily seen to vanish. The generalized momenta are px=˙x+˙y

py=˙x+˙y+4x
You can then eliminate ˙x and ˙y from these relations to find your constraint equation.


(Edited to provide example appropriate to the OP's question)


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