Thursday, October 13, 2016

homework and exercises - Working with a Routhian for a specific system


I asked a more general question earlier about the Routhian, but I'm still having trouble working with it. Here's my specific case. Given the following Lagrangian:


L=(1/2)m(˙r2+r2˙ϕ2sin2θ0)mgrcos(θ0),


I obtained the corresponding Routhian:


R=(1/2)pϕ˙ϕ(1/2)m˙r2+mgrcosθ0.


I'm being asked to do the following: obtain the Hamilton equation of motion for pϕ, show that it's constant in time and find its initial value, obtain the Lagrange equation of motion for r from the Routhian, and obtain the Hamiltonian


When I try to do the first part (obtain the Hamilton e.o.m.) I get R/pϕ=(1/2)˙ϕ which doesn't show that it's constant in time or that angular momentum is conserved, which I think is what we're trying to show here. What am I doing wrong? Also, how can I obtain the Lagrange e.o.m. for r using the Routhian? Do I just take


ddtR˙rRr=0,



since r appears in the Routhian and plug in r=r0 to find the initial value? Similarly, how do I go about obtaining the Hamiltonian from the Routhian?




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