Thursday, December 22, 2016

newtonian mechanics - What is the function of the top point of a bouncing ball?


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A ball is thrown away as parallel to x axis from M(0,h) point with speed V . After each jumping on x axis , it can reach half of previous height as shown in the figure.(Assume that no any air friction and the ball is very small.)


Question-1:


Find f(x) that passes from of top points ?


Question-2:


I have just a claim about the system but I need to prove that if we throw away the ball from a point of f(x) as parallel to x axis with the speed of Vinitial=Vf(x)h, the maximum points of the ball will be on same f(x). How can the claim be proved or disproved?




My attempt to find f(x)


f(0)=h


f(x1+x2)=h/2


f(x1+2x2+x3)=h/4



f(x1+2x2+2x3+x4)=h/8 .


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x1=vt


mgh=12mV2


h=12gt2


After first bouncing , On first top point: N (x1+x2,h/2):


mgh/2=12mV21


V21=V2/2


V1=V2



h/2=12gt22


t22=t2/2


t2=t2


f(x1+x2)=h/2


f(Vt+t2V2)=h/2


f(Vt+t2V2)=h/2


f(Vt(1+1/2))=h/2


After second bouncing, On second top point: O (x1+2x2+x3,h/4):


mgh/4=12mV22


V22=V2/4



V2=V2


h/4=12gt23


t23=t2/4


t3=t2


f(x1+2x2+x3)=h/4


f(Vt+Vt+V3t3)=h/4


f(Vt+Vt+Vt/4)=h/4


f(Vt(1+1+1/4))=h/4


On 3th top point:


f(Vt(1+1+1/2+1/8))=h/8



On 4th top point:


f(Vt(1+1+1/2+1/4+1/16))=h/16 .


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On nth top point: n>


f(3Vt)=0


How can I find y=f(x)


Thanks for answers




EDIT: I have found f(x). MrBrody is right. The function is a line.


my Proof: On nth top point:



f(Vt.a(n))=h/2n


a(0)=1


a(1)=1+1/2=1+11/2


a(2)=1+1+1/4=1+1+1/21/4


a(3)=1+1+1/2+1/8=1+1+1/2+1/41/8


a(4)=1+1+1/2+1/4+1/16=1+1+1/2+1/4+1/81/16 .


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a(n)=1+1+1/2+1/4+....1/2n11/2n


a(n)=1+1(1/2)n)11/21/2n=1+2(1(1/2)n)1/2n=332n


On nth top point:



f(Vt[332n])=h2n


where t=2hg


Vt[332n]=x


332n=xVt


112n=x3Vt


1x3Vt=12n


f(x)=h2n=h(1x3Vt)=h(1x3V2hg)


Now I am trying to prove or disprove my claim in second question. If I find the solution I will post it.



Answer



The key parameter here seems to be how are distributed the losses at each bounce (from what you said, there is no air friction here): how much translational and vertical speed are lost in the transition before/after the bounce. From your graphic, it seems like the hypothesis is that there is "reflection" of the ball: same angle when arriving/leaving the ground, only the norm of the speed decreases, the ratio |V_y|/|V_x| being conserved. From that, you can prove that each parabola is similar to the previous one, same ratio height/length on x axis for each one. From this you indeed get a straight line, whith its slope determined by the 2 first points, (0,h) and (x1+x1/2, h/2). Then you only need to determine x1 to determine the slope of f(x), and hence f(x) completely. I hope I didn't miss anything, as this hypothesis on the repartition of the losses on V_x and V_y at each bounce is crucial to solve the problem!



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