Sunday, October 19, 2014

newtonian mechanics - Can torque relations actually be *derived* from Newton's Laws, or is it something extra?


For a long time I have wondered if there is a way to show that the rotational analogs of Newton's Laws are a direct consequence of just those laws, or are we adding more to them?


I understand mathematically that we take Newton's second law and do "r cross both sides," but that has always struck me as using more than just the 2nd law.


Here it matters where forces on the body are applied, but I don't see where Newton's Laws talk about points where forces are applied to a body. For translational motion it doesn't matter. So are we adding a sort of "extra law" when we do this for rotation?


The only thing I can think of would be to "disassemble" an extended body into differential point masses and work with internal constraint forces that make the body rigid. If every mass is just a point mass it would get around the issue I'm having. I've never seen any discussion along those lines, though.




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